removing drums.....

[palmerlouie]

i remember seeing russell gilbrook supporting gregg bissonette at a mapex clinic.....and he played along to "earth song" by michael Jackson and there were no drums on the track....also there was like a 16 bar break (with click underneath) while he soloed and then carried on......

he must have been able to fiddle with the song somehow....does anyone know how? software.....equipment???

thanks

[ladanny]

I just sent Gregg a note. Will post what he says.

Danny

[peter c]

Danny,

I too am VERY interested
in this process. Thanks.

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[tombo74]

I'm also interested in this process and found this:http://www.replayinc.com/Products/Decomposer.htm
They say it can remove any instrument from a song.
You can also program 2 notch filters to remove specific frequency bands. Drumkit frequencies fall in basically 3 bands: low for bass drums, mids for snare/toms and highs for cymbals. Maybe you could do something with a couple of passes.

Anyway I sent an email to the company to ask what performances we could expect with drums removal. I'll post any more info I get.

T

[peter c]

Thanks, Tombo.

This is interesting.
I may look into it.

One of the reasons I
like to work to Latin
is that there is usually
no drum track to deal
with, just a raging
percussion section and
that's always fun.

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[tombo74]

Here's the answer I got from support at Replay:

I must admit, drums are tricky just because, yes, they do fall in different frequency bands. What you would have to do is filter out each and every instrument. Use the pre-defined filters or you can actually specify the frequency range. If you have something that will analyze the frequencies you can use that to depict the exact frequencies, but most of the drum instruments have a standard frequency range.

Verdict: Very tricky, but can be done with some patience and some frequency ranges.

Hope this helps,
Support

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">So you would also need a software that do Fourier transform frequency analysis. You could isolate let's say a snare crack, analyse it, look at the frequency range with the highest amplitude and enter this range in the DeComposer. Repeat that for each part (cymbal crash, kick...). I know somebody who found a free frequency analysis software on the web or it's not that hard to program if you know a bit about maths and have something like Matlab.

Might worth checking out since DeComposer is not that expensive. Anybody else has experience with this process?

T

[ladanny]

Hi everyone,

Well, I spoke with Gregg and asked him about this. Gregg said he had no idea how Russell removed the drums. Gregg think that Russell made the tracks himself.

Sorry I couldn't get more info. Maybe somebody should try to contact Russell?

Danny